2012-04-19

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02:51 <webchat158> Hey all!
02:52 <webchat158> just getting started with the android SDK. I'm using the sample code
02:52 <webchat158> imported into eclipse, full of errors, any ideas why?
03:24 <webchat158> Anyone here?
04:12 <@TedCurtin> Next phase for #Location-Based #Apps? Smarter, happier users. How #geofencing can change the world http://t.co/5ZN0rzrO #mobile #cmo
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09:07 <aaronpk> why do people only ask questions here at 3am?
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11:49 <@PurplHayes> @caseorganic Hay! I attended your presentation on Geoloqi at the ESRI developer meetup last year. GeoLoqi "wowed" me. Nice work!!
12:01 <@caseorganic> @PurplHayes Thanks so much! That was a fun meetup to go to. It's been wonderful to work on Geoloqi as well!
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14:03 <@pcurtain> Thanks for the tour, @twaddington! (@ Geoloqi HQ) http://t.co/xbpwXCc7
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16:41 <@kenfucious> . @caseorganic @geoloqi Can't wait to see a Windows Mobile app!
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19:57 <svfd267> hello
19:58 <svfd267> i have a question about geoloqi and geofencing
19:58 <svfd267> does anyone have any familiarity with this?
20:00 <aaronpk> hey there
20:00 <aaronpk> i'd be happy to help
20:01 <svfd267> hi arron
20:01 <svfd267> aaron*
20:01 <svfd267> that would be great
20:01 <svfd267> i actually just submitted an email to geoloqi
20:01 <aaronpk> oh! now I recognize the "VFD"
20:02 <svfd267> is it ok that i explain my situation and what i am trying to accomplish?
20:02 <svfd267> oh
20:02 <svfd267> yes :)
20:02 <aaronpk> yep, just got that email
20:02 <svfd267> im pretty excited about what geofencing could mean four us
20:03 <aaronpk> yea I think that could work quite well
20:03 <svfd267> i can just let you read the email - it covers the absolute basics
20:03 <svfd267> thats great - please forgive me - but i havent really trolled the forum's
20:04 <aaronpk> great, yea that's a great use case
20:04 <svfd267> is there maybe a whitepaper that outlines how to implement geofencing in an android app or the geoloqi system?
20:05 <svfd267> i can read and try to figure out what i can
20:05 <aaronpk> do you have any programming knowledge in a web language? not necessarily android?
20:05 <svfd267> limited html
20:05 <svfd267> thats all i got
20:05 <svfd267> no ruby on rails perl
20:05 <svfd267> c+
20:06 <aaronpk> did someone build the SMS system for you?
20:06 <svfd267> funny story
20:06 <svfd267> well...
20:07 <svfd267> its not really funny
20:07 <svfd267> but give me one moment
20:07 <svfd267> i have this written out
20:07 <svfd267> so
20:08 <svfd267> this is how the system works
20:08 <svfd267> its a bit clunky
20:08 <svfd267> since i didnt take any time to figure out how to script the queries for SMS's
20:08 <svfd267> 1. users send at SMS message to an email address I created with Google 2. I have an Outlook 2010 mail client setup with the Google account 3. I had to setup 4 rules per user - these rules parse both the subject and body for OOS, RFS, DR, and FO and checks the adress they were sent from -numberhere@vtext.com 4. The rule kicks off a batch file based on which rule was triggered. the batch file contains a SQLCMD command that points to
20:09 <svfd267> There is one for every status, for every user - UGH. 5. The input file points to a MS SQL database i created and updates a column titled STATUS - it just dumps the value into the users respective row - RFS, OOS, DR, FO 6. I also created a trigger that dumps the time the table was last modified into a datetime column in order to timestamp their status updates and give some relevance to their status 7. I have an internal IIS website
20:09 <svfd267> 7. I have an internal IIS website that displays a webpage accessible from the outside world - I placed a gridview within the page to suck data from the database - Name - Status - Modified time 8. I have four dataview objects in the page as well that run a count against the status values and shows how many have an RFS status, OOS, DR and FO 9. I threw in an embedded clock for users to cross reference the time stamps
20:09 <svfd267> 11. I setup a monitor and a PC at the station by our radio's. 12. the system reboots every day at noon to keep it up and running 13. the system launches the page at startup everytime it is rebooted, in chrome's KIOSK mode and i found a plug in that allows me to automatically start refreshing the page in google chrome as soon as the browser is launched
20:10 <aaronpk> wow! that's pretty elaborate
20:10 <svfd267> that is how i have it setup....
20:10 <svfd267> its ridiculous...
20:10 <svfd267> if i had any programming knowledge...
20:11 <aaronpk> that's a pretty good hack!
20:12 <svfd267> haha - thanks - i guess if i wanted to add one more layer of complexity
20:12 <aaronpk> well the reason I ask is because we've set up the Geoloqi API so people can build things that use location services without necessarily writing iPhone or Android app code
20:12 <svfd267> i wanted to see if i could Geofence my firezone and then have it message my system when they enter or leave the fence
20:13 <svfd267> oh - OK - go on.....
20:16 <aaronpk> Well there is a web API that can be used to set up geofences and triggers
20:18 <aaronpk> sorry, back in a minute
20:18 <svfd267> OK
20:18 <svfd267> that is fine
20:23 <@ginnycase> Heading out! Track me on Geoloqi! http://t.co/BIer3iov
20:33 <svfd267> i am sorry aaron, but i am going to have to call it a night
20:33 <svfd267> i hope that we could resume this conversation at another time
20:38 <aaronpk> sorry about that, I had to take a call. I'd love to continue talking about this
20:38 <svfd267> well if you are back and have time now - i can spare some sleep
20:38 <svfd267> :)
20:39 <aaronpk> the short version is: you can use our app in the store, and set up triggers on the website at http://geoloqi.com/layers
20:39 <aaronpk> the triggers can run a callback URL on your server and will include the user ID of the person triggering it and the place info, etc
20:40 <aaronpk> or you can have the triggers send an SMS, but that is not the recommended way
20:40 <svfd267> oh...
20:40 <svfd267> hmmm
20:41 <aaronpk> of course you could use the SDK and build your own apps, but you don't necessarily need to
20:41 <aaronpk> if you wanted more branding or if you wanted to be able to change the interface, for example
20:42 <svfd267> ok - i guess since i am a bit of a layman when it comes to programming - the SDK would be easier?
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20:43 <svfd267> honestly - i was a bit lost on the triggers and layers - I see where you are pointing me to - i really dont want to waste your time, so i should probably read a bit more on the topic
20:43 <aaronpk> i'll point you to some examples
20:44 <svfd267> i guess my biggest concern was - does this seem like geoloqi could handle this use-case and if it does, then ill dig deeper
20:44 <svfd267> exampes would be GREAT
20:46 <aaronpk> hmm, trying to find a pertinent one
20:46 <svfd267> ok
20:46 <svfd267> take your time - i really do appreciate the concern
20:46 <aaronpk> well, you saw our wikipedia layer, correct?
20:46 <svfd267> :/
20:46 <svfd267> no
20:47 <aaronpk> I should do a blog post about this kidn of thing, I don't think we have a good summary of it yet
20:47 <Loqi> yea
20:47 <svfd267> OH
20:47 <svfd267> i see it
20:47 <@ginnycase> Heading out! Track me on Geoloqi! http://t.co/ZglXIu01
20:48 <aaronpk> ok that's actually a bad example for this
20:48 <svfd267> =)
20:48 <aaronpk> well anyway, the idea is: if you can write a web page with some sort of scripting language behind it to update your own database, then you can get Geoloqi to ping that web page based on geofences
20:49 <svfd267> I might be able to hash that out
20:50 <svfd267> i work with a guy that is technically....amazing. he might be able to assist with that
20:50 <svfd267> i guess im curious of the geofences - where do they get established at
20:51 <aaronpk> great, taht would be the first place to start. after that, you can use it either with our app in the store, or from a custom app using the SDK
20:51 <aaronpk> the geofences can be set up on a map at geoloqi.com
20:51 <aaronpk> you can configure more options on them if you use the API, but using the map would be a good start
20:52 <svfd267> i see the options for the geonotes
20:52 <svfd267> but there isnt one for a geofence
20:52 <svfd267> should i see that?
20:52 <aaronpk> ah that's where the layer comes in
20:52 <aaronpk> you can make a layer called "SVFD" for example, and set up places and triggers on it.
20:52 <aaronpk> you'd make three places, one for each size you talked about
20:53 <svfd267> ok
20:53 <aaronpk> then you'd set up triggers on the places for entering and exiting, and set the triggers to ping your server
20:53 <svfd267> i see the places item
20:54 <aaronpk> like I said, this would be a good blog post/tutorial to write, so I may try to do that in the next week or so
20:54 <svfd267> cool!
20:54 <svfd267> so one last item
20:55 <svfd267> then i will let you go
20:55 <svfd267> it seems you need to request premission to setup a layer?
20:55 <svfd267> Include a URL here which will be used in the Layer tab of the Geoloqi app. (This requires approval, contact us)
20:55 <aaronpk> ah you can ignore that, that's just if you want it to show up in our app
20:55 <svfd267> oh - ok
20:55 <svfd267> well aaron
20:56 <svfd267> i really do appreciate the information
20:56 <svfd267> this has been informative
20:56 <svfd267> at least i have somewhere to start with this
20:56 <aaronpk> great!
20:56 <aaronpk> I'm happy to help you throught he process later, hopefullt that gives you enough to go on now
20:57 <svfd267> great - you're the best - this should be sufficient until i put my nose to the grinding wheel
20:57 <aaronpk> glad I can help!
20:57 <aaronpk> talk to you later then! I'm usually in this channel during the day/evening, otherwise you can shoot me an email
20:58 <svfd267> OK - through the ebsite?
20:58 <svfd267> website*
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23:31 <@mko> Tomorrow, I will be tracking my day via Fitbit Ultra, Nike+ Fuelband, Jawbone Up, Wahoo BlueHR, Geoloqi, and Walkmeter.
23:35 <@aaronpk> @mko Awesome! I've been working on a Jawbone UP + Geoloqi mashup which adds the city name to my sleep logs!
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