2010-07-01

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15:11 <donpdonp> neophiliac went to the airport
15:31 <donpdonp> neophiliac is on the move
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16:58 <donpdonp> aaronpk: are you home? (my net connection isnt good enough to load the people page right now)
16:59 <aaronpk> hehe
16:59 <aaronpk> I'm on my way back in a few
16:59 <donpdonp> ok. i have a half flat of berries to deliver for amber
16:59 <aaronpk> woo!
17:00 <donpdonp> so let me know when someone is home :)
17:01 <donpdonp> i was at the farmer's market, and she asked earlier for some berries
17:01 <donpdonp> thx.
17:02 <donpdonp> ah there is the tracker
17:02 <donpdonp> aaronpk 8 hours ?! :)
17:02 <aaronpk> that's when i got here
17:04 <donpdonp> ic
17:42 <Schuyler> hello hello
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19:02 <aaronpk> hello Schuyler
19:03 <caseorganic> hey Schuyler!
22:17 <jtbandes> ok, I read "berries" as "batteries" for a while there
22:21 <jtbandes> also, I have a conundrum for you guys to solve
22:22 <jtbandes> I'm about to turn my phone back on, and I'm guessing the location will jump from wherever it was last (running out of battery) to home, where I am now
22:22 <jtbandes> But that'll probably make a line on the map.... which it probably shouldn't.
22:23 <jtbandes> So maybe there should be a hard limit where if there's a big time interval between updates it doesn't connect them? or something...
22:23 <jtbandes> and yep, you can see it now http://test.geoloqi.com/profile/jtbandes
22:28 <aaronpk> ah yea, I've done some filtering on the data to prevent that on my printed maps, but it hasn't made its way into the geoloqi codebase yet
22:28 <jtbandes> Should it be something server-side then?
22:28 <aaronpk> yea
22:29 <aaronpk> only when it draws the line
22:29 <jtbandes> Yeah, I guess.
22:29 <jtbandes> It could look at the previous frequency of updates and determine if that's reasonable
22:30 <aaronpk> well a line beyond a certain length is never going to look good on a map
22:30 <jtbandes> The other idea I had, was maybe an "adaptive" filter setting, where instead of manual sliders it'd take a combination of battery power, previous speed & direction, etc. to see if it could reasonably raise the distance filter without losing accuracy
22:30 <aaronpk> ah that would be cool
22:30 <jtbandes> If you're on a long straightaway you really only need a few points
22:30 <jtbandes> But if you're going around a bunch of turns, you need more than taht
22:30 <aaronpk> the problem is being able to predict changes
22:31 <jtbandes> Yeah.
22:31 <aaronpk> tho in my experience it's not running the gps that eats power, it's sending to the server.
22:31 <aaronpk> so that would be easier to make adaptable
22:32 <jtbandes> Take a look at my data from earlier, watch the battery level
22:32 <jtbandes> It went down pretty far when the phone wasn't moving much
22:32 <jtbandes> I had it on 1min sending interval, but 0 distance filter
22:36 <aaronpk> you have a way to export this data, yea?
22:37 <jtbandes> I just got it from the server like you said
22:37 <aaronpk> ok great, just wanted to make sure we're looking at the same thing
22:38 <jtbandes> Oh bizarre, my battery went in increments of 10%
22:38 <jtbandes> I wonder if that's just a function of how often it was updating
22:39 <aaronpk> i bet the OS doesn't report the level more accurately than 5%
22:39 <jtbandes> But it should... at least in the status bar you have 1% accuracy
22:39 <jtbandes> jtbandes tests
22:40 <aaronpk> it goes from 40 to 35 in the span of one minute
22:40 <jtbandes> Hm.
22:40 <aaronpk> 35 to 30 in 50 seconds
22:40 <jtbandes> Maybe I'm doing it wrong in the code
22:40 <aaronpk> ah here it is: 30 to 25 in 10 seconds
22:40 <jtbandes> o_O
22:41 <aaronpk> that says to me that it's rouding
22:41 <jtbandes> "Notifications for battery level change are sent no more frequently than once per minute."
22:41 <jtbandes> I didnt' use the notification system though
22:41 <jtbandes> But that's interesting
22:45 <jtbandes> Alright, I made a thing to monitor battery level & state, I'll leave it running a few minutes
22:45 <jtbandes> I am seeing 0.300000 though, so it probably does round
22:47 <aaronpk> 5% accuracy is plenty i think anyway
22:48 <jtbandes> 31% on the display and no new notifications
22:49 <aaronpk> odd
22:51 <jtbandes> Aha yep, got a notification at 35%
22:51 <jtbandes> Rather, 0.350000, since the display still shows 34%
22:51 <jtbandes> definitely rounding
22:51 <jtbandes> ....
22:52 <jtbandes> In a stroke of brilliance, I unplugged my phone to see the state change from charging to discharging
22:52 <jtbandes> ...while attached to the debugger
22:52 <jtbandes> jtbandes needs more sleep
22:55 <aaronpk> nice
23:27 <donpdonp> jtbandes was at 5% batt one hour ago
23:27 <donpdonp> its down to the wire
23:27 <jtbandes> Yeah that's when I turned it off.
23:28 <donpdonp> ah
23:28 <donpdonp> did anyone see my icon go down to woodburn?
23:32 <caseorganic> I did!!!
23:32 <donpdonp> woo! i was hoping someone was watching!
23:32 <caseorganic> from the living room!
23:33 <donpdonp> \o/
23:33 <caseorganic> nice
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23:37 <jtbandes> jtbandes is now tempted to make an iPad app that's just a fullscreen map of all our locations, then affix it to the wall
23:38 <caseorganic> wall fixie = yes
23:39 <aaronpk> ya! we were watching the map on our wall!
23:39 <jtbandes> Great ideas in there
23:39 <donpdonp> i was zooming at inhuman speeds of 55 and 65MPH
23:40 <aaronpk> haha
23:40 <aaronpk> yea your donpdonp icon was moving much more than i'm used to seeing it!
23:41 <donpdonp> :)
23:45 <caseorganic> good night
23:46 <Loqi> see you in the morning!
23:46 <caseorganic> watching star trek now
23:46 <caseorganic> <3 loqi
23:46 <Loqi> Loqi gives caseorganic a massage
23:46 <donpdonp> woo. trekkies
23:46 <caseorganic> just what I needed </cars>
23:46 <donpdonp> im boppin along to Kesha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afzuvZBcIVY
23:46 <donpdonp> i miss music in the car
23:46 <caseorganic> haha!
23:46 <caseorganic> night
23:46 <Loqi> nice
23:47 <donpdonp> ciao
23:56 <jtbandes> Why has no one else been committing to the github project? :P
23:56 <Loqi> Loqi grabs jtbandes's tongue
23:57 <jtbandes> jtbandes Why haa no ooue elthbhb bvueeh cowwuithing hu hueuh gihhuvf frozheck?