2010-06-12

00:06 <@myusic> Awesome. RT:@aaronpk ... @caseorganic's taxi ride from the airport in real time using a development version of @geoloqi! http://aaron.pk/13Y
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08:09 <Loqi> [[iPhone App]] M http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=99&oldid=97&rcid=102 * Aaronpk * (+0) capitalization changes
08:15 <Loqi> [[Branding Guide]] NM http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?oldid=100&rcid=103 * Caseorganic * (+554) Created page with '==About Geoloqi== GeoLoqi is a private, real-time mobile and web platform for securely location data, with features such as Geonotes, proximal notification, and sharing real-time…'
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10:08 <@aaronpk> Starting a code sprint to see if I can make a Palm version of Geoloqi! I've never written a Palm app before so this should be interesting.
10:13 <@aaronpk_sv> Starta en kod sprint för att se om jag kan göra en Palm-versionen av Geoloqi!
10:13 <@aaronpk_es> Inicio de un sprint código para ver si puedo hacer una versión de Palm Geoloqi!
10:13 <@aaronpk_de> Ab einem Code Sprint zu sehen, ob ich eine Version von Palm Geoloqi machen kann!
10:13 <_aaronpk2> oops hehe
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13:31 <@pkbot> Posted a photo: Geoloqi on the Palm WebOS Emulator! http://aaron.pk/143 [Flickr]
14:09 <@strangeways> InstaMapper worked correctly for about a day. Background GPS + @geoloqi will be great & help address http://j.mp/c0QuaD
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15:18 <donpdonp> wooooo
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16:00 <aaronpk> hello maxticket!
16:15 <donpdonp> another channel to lurk in
16:15 <donpdonp> wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
16:18 <maxticket> Hey everyone
16:19 <donpdonp> to the max!
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16:20 <maxticket1> Hey, there's two of me now
16:26 <maxticket1> Googling geoloqi no longer autosearches "geology" in the first two results.
16:26 <Loqi> Loqi grins profusely
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16:27 <donpdonp> geoloqi
16:27 <aaronpk> win!
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16:27 <donpdonp> loqi in the afternoon
16:28 <donpdonp> donpdonp gives loqi a dinosnack
16:28 <Loqi> Loqi eats the dinosnack
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16:28 <caseorganic> gives Loqi a box.
16:28 <Loqi> Loqi throws the box.
16:29 <caseorganic> me catches the box
16:29 <caseorganic> <3 Loqi
16:29 <Loqi> Loqi gives caseorganic a backrub
16:29 <maxticket1> gives Loqi a copy of Green Day's American Idiot.
16:29 <Loqi> Loqi grabs the copy of Green Day's American Idiot.
16:30 <donpdonp> gives loqi a logical paradox.
16:30 <Loqi> Loqi grabs the logical paradox.
16:30 <caseorganic> Loqi explodes!
16:30 <Loqi> caseorganic is a buttwipe
16:31 <maxticket1> Something tells me all the maps used in our examples and branding and imagery need to include Ladd's Addition.
16:31 <donpdonp> Loqi: whats the sound of one hand clapping?
16:31 <Loqi> buttwipe
16:32 <aaronpk> yea! did you see we did that on geoloqi.com? split the map across the two phones
16:32 <maxticket1> Yeah
16:32 <maxticket1> Which was awesome
16:33 <aaronpk> Loqi: be nice
16:45 <maxticket1> Do we have a model for how we want the website to work when the visitor hasn't been given an active tracking map?
16:46 <maxticket1> Does that question make sense?
16:47 <aaronpk> like what does my profile page look like if there is no real-time map?
16:47 <maxticket1> Right
16:47 <maxticket1> Because we still want to send geonotes to users.
16:48 <maxticket1> So I imagine that'd be the only function of the map when there's no real-time map?
16:48 <Loqi> [[Mobile Website]] M http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=102&oldid=36&rcid=105 * Aaronpk * (+0)
16:49 <aaronpk> that sounds right
16:49 <Loqi> who, me?
16:49 <aaronpk> no, loqi, not you
16:49 <Loqi> who, me?
16:49 <aaronpk> NO
16:49 <maxticket1> Right, we want the same functionality on the non-mobile site
16:49 <maxticket1> Loqi, take 5.
16:50 <aaronpk> yea
17:09 <maxticket1> When no real time map is given, do we want to show the user's current location? Or just a blank map? I forgot if we wanted to keep current location data private until shared.
17:17 <aaronpk> it should center on a point near the user's last known location, it will pick a point a random distance from their last position and there will be no marker
17:19 <maxticket1> Cool
17:20 <aaronpk> or possibly their home town that they marked in their profile
17:20 <aaronpk> but either way, no pin
17:21 <maxticket1> Yeah, I was wondering, if we're keeping this data private, maybe there should be a default location, not where they usually are, because that would most likely be their home.
17:21 <maxticket1> I mean the very vcenter of the map would be their home. I suppose we should have that option available when they create an account.
17:22 <maxticket1> How about expirations on geonotes?
17:22 <aaronpk> like "don't deliver after this date?"
17:22 <maxticket1> Yeah
17:22 <aaronpk> would be cool, the system is set up internally for that already, I just haven't been able to figure out where it goes in the UI
17:23 <maxticket1> Maybe "Cancel Geonote after: 1 day / 1 week / 1 month / 1 year"
17:23 <aaronpk> check out http://aaron.pk/geonote/ it centers the map on a slightly different spot every time you load the page
17:23 <maxticket1> Or Never
17:23 <maxticket1> Oh, is that randomized?
17:23 <aaronpk> yea
17:23 <maxticket1> Nice
17:23 <maxticket1> I don't know about consistency though. It seems like a glitch rather than a feature.
17:24 <aaronpk> well normally you don't reload the page over and over
17:24 <Loqi> [[Geoloqi Website]] ! http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=103&oldid=71&rcid=106 * Maxticket * (+977)
17:24 <aaronpk> also tho you could run it a zillion times and plot the distribution of random points and probably figure out the center
17:24 <maxticket1> Right
17:24 <maxticket1> Updated the GeoLoqi Website page
17:25 <Loqi> [[Mobile App Guidelines]] N http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?oldid=104&rcid=107 * Caseorganic * (+1560) Created page with 'This is a page of guidelines for developing Geoloqi apps for mobile devices. These guidelines are meant to ensure a reliable user experience across apps on all platforms. === S…'
17:25 <aaronpk> cool thx
17:25 <maxticket1> Awesome, thanks caseorganic!
17:26 <Loqi> [[Mobile App Guidelines]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=105&oldid=104&rcid=108 * Caseorganic * (+110)
17:29 <maxticket1> So users can't send other users geonotes with the native app?
17:30 <aaronpk> right
17:30 <maxticket1> Why is that?
17:30 <maxticket1> Just minimalism?
17:30 <aaronpk> there is no "friend" relationship yet
17:30 <maxticket1> Ah, got it.
17:31 <aaronpk> keeping it simple for now, otherwise we won't ever finish the first version of the app, heh
17:33 <caseorganic> the most important feature is tracking
17:34 <maxticket1> Do we have any established color schemes yet?
17:34 <aaronpk> the mobile apps should use whatever is native to the platform
17:34 <maxticket1> Right
17:35 <aaronpk> for the site we only have the geoloqi logo (blue+green) and loqi (blue+yellow)
17:35 <maxticket1> Can I see that iPhone launch icon with the mappy BG?
17:41 <caseorganic> Uploading to dropbox in folder Geoloqi icon
17:41 <maxticket1> Thanks for the upload
17:43 <aaronpk> hey cool
17:44 <caseorganic> cooL!
18:01 <Loqi> [[Geoloqi Website]] ! http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=106&oldid=103&rcid=109 * Maxticket * (+24)
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18:30 <maxticket1> Do we have / want a project glossary? I'm being pretty specific about terms like User and Visitor, and don't know the proper capitilization methods of words like GeoNote.
18:42 <caseorganic> That is a good idea
18:42 <caseorganic> Geonote
18:42 <caseorganic> Geoloqi
18:45 <Loqi> [[Branding Guide]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=108&oldid=100&rcid=111 * Caseorganic * (+135)
18:46 <caseorganic> User and Visitor
18:46 <caseorganic> Right -- there is a difference between user and visitor
18:49 <Loqi> [[Branding Guide]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=109&oldid=108&rcid=112 * Caseorganic * (-1)
18:53 <Loqi> [[Project Glossary]] !N http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?oldid=110&rcid=113 * Maxticket * (+943) Created page with 'This document lists the appropriate spellings and definitions of terminology used in the development of Geoloqi. == Standard Terms == * Geoloqi: The title of the project, its we…'
18:54 <Loqi> [[Branding Guide]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=111&oldid=109&rcid=114 * Caseorganic * (-89)
19:01 <Loqi> [[Project Glossary]] ! http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=112&oldid=110&rcid=115 * Maxticket * (+682)
19:01 <Loqi> [[Terminology]] N http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?oldid=113&rcid=116 * Caseorganic * (+1112) Created page with '==Geonote== A Geonote is one word with one capital letter. Multiple notes are Geonotes. ==User== A User is an individual who has an account on Geoloqi.com or has download any Geo…'
19:01 <maxticket1> Looks like we're doing the same thing twice.
19:06 <Loqi> [[Mobile App Guidelines]] M http://dev.geoloqi.com/wiki/index.php?diff=115&oldid=105&rcid=118 * Caseorganic * (+6)
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19:09 <aaronpk> oops that wasn't what i meant to do
20:29 <Loqi> [[Get Involved]] M http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=116&oldid=55&rcid=119 * Aaronpk * (+0)
21:35 <caseorganic> What if I say Nerdle here?
21:36 <Loqi> [[Project Glossary]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=117&oldid=112&rcid=120 * Caseorganic * (+60)
21:37 <Loqi> [[Project Glossary]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=118&oldid=117&rcid=121 * Caseorganic * (+42)
21:40 <Loqi> [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=119&oldid=94&rcid=122 * Caseorganic * (+37)
21:40 <Loqi> [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=120&oldid=119&rcid=123 * Caseorganic * (-5)
22:08 <donpdonp> from maxogden: "My gps phone broke :("
22:08 <Loqi> [[Project Glossary]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=121&oldid=118&rcid=124 * Caseorganic * (+305)
22:08 <aaronpk> oh sad
22:08 <aaronpk> how'd it break?
22:08 <caseorganic> how?
22:08 <donpdonp> i dont know
22:08 <caseorganic> hmm
22:08 <caseorganic> strange!?
22:08 <aaronpk> odd
22:08 <caseorganic> which one was it
22:08 <donpdonp> was he using a boostmobile?
22:08 <aaronpk> yea
22:08 <caseorganic> yeah
22:08 <donpdonp> caseorganic: i asked him what phone he has left. no response yet
22:09 <caseorganic> hmm
22:09 <aaronpk> sqlite db ftw!
22:09 <donpdonp> aaronpk: awesome!
22:11 <@pkbot> Posted a photo: Geoloqi.com GPS tracker for Palm WebOS version 0.0.0.0.0.1 http://aaron.pk/14G [Flickr]
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22:36 <donpdonp> caseorganic: you're off the map?
22:37 <aaronpk> i think she's behind me
22:37 <aaronpk> or maybe i am on top of her
22:37 <donpdonp> oh. must be exactly aligned.
22:39 <donpdonp> ive gone some javascript coolness to show in a few
22:39 <aaronpk> oo
22:39 <donpdonp> :)
22:42 <donpdonp> fuuuuuuuu. i easy cross into do-not-understand-html-layout land. aka div/span/float hell
22:42 <jtbandes> Need help?
22:44 <donpdonp> i can bypass the fubar'edness for now, want to stay on the refresh logic. but once thats done, yeah id like to know whats wrong
22:45 <jtbandes> Link? :)
22:45 <jtbandes> Or, source
22:45 <donpdonp> its localhost for speed. i'll copy it up in a few mins
22:46 <jtbandes> I should be getting to bed too, more dragonboat races tomorrow
22:46 <donpdonp> woo!
22:46 <donpdonp> aaronpk: any parties on your side of hawthorne? there is a loud one across the street from me
22:47 <jtbandes> In other news, I seem to have borked safari extensions
22:47 <jtbandes> It literally works if I change the extension name, and breaks when I change it back
22:48 <donpdonp> maybe i can explain it here. <span><img></span><span>text</span> works. photo to the left of the text
22:48 <caseorganic> cool! those dragonboat races sound fun!
22:48 <jtbandes> caseorganic: rose fest stuff, come to the waterfront to see tomorrow :)
22:48 <donpdonp> maybe i can explain it here. <span><img></span><span>text<br/>line 2</span> does not. line 2 is below the photo when there is plenty of vertical space to go right below text
22:49 <aaronpk> i don't hear any parties over here lol
22:49 <donpdonp> aaronpk: pm
22:50 <jtbandes> donpdonp: maybe change the <img> css vertical-align:top
22:50 <donpdonp> jtbandes: ive got vertical-align already, 'text' shows up nicely at the top and to the left of the img
22:50 <jtbandes> Screenshot?
22:50 <donpdonp> too much work. i'll have the whole thing up in a few :)
22:51 <donpdonp> s/left/right/
22:51 <aaronpk> you need jing or something :D
22:51 <jtbandes> TinyGrab ftw :P
22:51 <aaronpk> jing is way better!
22:52 <jtbandes> Jing feels bloated
22:52 <aaronpk> i used tinygrab for a while and it just started crapping out, forgetting my shortcut and then failing to upload
22:52 <aaronpk> jing i can upload to ftp, flickr, or just copy to my clipboard
22:52 <aaronpk> or save locally
22:52 <aaronpk> all of which i do on a regular basis
22:52 <donpdonp> is there a time_ago_in_words in javascript?
22:52 <aaronpk> i made one at some point
22:52 <donpdonp> given a date from 2 hours ago it returns "2 hours"
22:53 <jtbandes> ah aaronpk, you're on Windows?
22:53 <aaronpk> both
22:53 <jtbandes> Hm
22:53 <jtbandes> TinyGrab seems to work better on Mac than you describe
22:53 <jtbandes> As it just uses the system screenshot stuff
22:53 <aaronpk> hm i never used it on mac, i only usd the windows version
22:53 <aaronpk> i use jing on both tho
22:53 <donpdonp> aaronpk: are you using an iso<whatevs> date/time parser?
22:55 <aaronpk> ah sadly i don't have a JS version
22:55 <aaronpk> i have a PHP versino which can be quickly modified to JS
22:55 <caseorganic> i use skitch
22:56 <caseorganic> and littlesnapper for bulk file tagging and upload
22:56 <caseorganic> and on pc i use snipping tool and jing
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23:11 <Loqi> [[Special:Log/upload]] upload * Aaronpk * uploaded "[[File:geoloqi-color-palette.png]]"
23:12 <Loqi> [[Branding Guide]] http://dev.geoloqi.com/index.php?diff=123&oldid=111&rcid=126 * Aaronpk * (+118)
23:16 <donpdonp> google maps doesnt need a developer key anymore?
23:22 <donpdonp> location aggregation page, private link, do not distribute: http://donpark.org/people/
23:23 <donpdonp> aaronpk: do the map tiles look right? they're fine on my laptop via file:///, but once they're on donpark.org, they're fubar'ed
23:24 <donpdonp> ah it was some kind of local zoom on my browser. its fixed now. woo